Support

FinalThirdFirst is run by volunteers who are seeking a solution for everyone in this country who needs broadband. Not just first generation broadband, but a connection that is fit for purpose for at least the next 20 years.

You can support the campaign in a number of ways:

  • Add your name to the list of members and supporters
  • Donate or sponsor the Campaign (contact Charles Trotman)
  • Offer practical or technical help to help administer and promote the Campaign
  1. Sheridan Williams
    April 26, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    The internet should be the sam as the original post office concept – available to all (wherever they are) at a fixed cost and minimum data rate. Home-workers save energy and are very green, but cannot become home-workers without a minimum of 4Mb/s connection.

  2. chrisconder
    April 26, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Agree with you Sheridan, our connections need to be ubiquitous, speed isn’t the issue, it needs to be a futureproof solution, or we will spend our lives in the digital slow lane. We need fibre into rural areas, and it isn’t rocket science, it just works and is unlimited, cheap and fast. The Return On Investment cannot be measured. For the government, the people, the country and the carbon footprint.

  3. Sheridan Williams
    April 26, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Strangely enough I was a Rocket Scientist with the MoD in the early 1970s. Since then I’ve installed computer networks in schools and I know what it’s all about. It needn’t be expensive, given permission to interface with the BT network I could do all the work for peanuts.

  4. chrisconder
    April 26, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    aye Sheridan, it could be so easy… we laid and lit some fibre from our farm to two neighbours. It was easy too. A damn site easier than installing wireless, and no trouble at all to maintain. Fibre just works. We just need to convince the policy makers that rural people are worth it. Otherwise openretch will keep this country throttled on copper for many generations more.

  5. April 28, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Listen guys, while this is allvery well and I support you in your fight for the right to upgrade, please spare a thought for us poor suckers who can’t even get basic broadband, and in my case I can’t even get a phone line! It’s ‘Not viable’ apparently, even though I could literally reach out and touch the phoneline from where I live, BT say there’s no room left on the line. I could, of course, pay to have an upgrade of the line for a mere £25,140.04p, not much less then the £37,000 paid for Lyddington’s entire network. Not only that; I would still have to pay line rental on the upgraded line which I would pay to have installed!
    So my neighbours and I rely on mobile broadband, which only works when the wind’s blowing in the right direction and almost always ‘time’s out’ when you are attempting to download anything. I could name at least 8 business within a stones throw from my home, and around 70 homes in the immediate vicinity whom would all sign up for broadband if they could but we’re ‘too far away’ from the junction box (2 miles as the crow flies) so, according to BT, we just need to suck it up and “think yourselves lucky that you’ve got mains electricity”, which was precisely the comment from a BT engineer!

    • chrisconder
      April 29, 2010 at 12:55 pm

      hi Storyteller, have you got a blog about your struggle? we could put it in the links on this site so policy makers know that people like us exist! We have over a hundred round here we are trying to reach with our wifi but if we can’t ‘see’ them we can’t help. This site is campaigning for all of us, so the more info you can give the more power they have.

  6. June 9, 2010 at 7:53 am

    Why Rural Communities Need NGA Broadband Too.

    I am doing something that I rarely do tomorrow. I am going to a consultation event on my own behalf. Its not what I do because I am a consultant and sell my time. I don’t like to have to pay myself to do things too often!

    This is too important to miss however. Its about the strategy to bring NGA Broadband to our area. I need to do my upmost to get the message across that not only is access to high speed broadband akin to a basic human right – its a utility just like water and elecricity – but that it is essential as an engine for enterprise and economic recovery, and for the sustainabilty of our rural communities.

    Much of our economic future rests on the shoulders of small businesses. The next generation of enterpreneurs are going to be operating in the cloud and welded to connectivity. Even us “40 somethings” who only got brave enough to join the digital age recently can see that doing business on a sub 10mbs connection is time limited.

    Writing this in my garden office I have a maximum speed of around 400kps download. I can just about cope with that for web browsing, e-mail and basic social networking. I soon come unstuck trying to stream video, file sharing is a dead loss and video conferencing out of the question. So how will I cope when the next generation of software applications are all internet based. Can I work in the cloud? I fear not.

    That would be a disaster for me – and many like me, now and in the future. I run a viable business from a garden office. I have created over £1 million in wages and sub-contract fees and spent more on other suppliers. I am low impact on the environment and have paid my fair share in taxes. Yet because I live 2.5 miles from the BT exchange I may soon be prevented from doing business here and forced to move. Surely that isn’t right in an age when we need as many people to live and work in the same community as possible?

    I guess I could move my business – I don’t want to, but I could. But what about the next generation – the online generation. Rural areas already struggle to keep hold of half of them once they reach 19. If we are to become digitial deserts it won’t just be the demographic that will suffer. Rural areas are great places to set up and grow businesses – especially knowledge based one – they are, or at least should be – the obvious place for sustainable and creative entreprenuership.

    So I hope I can get my message across tomorrow, and that some others think the same way. If not we may be back to the urban centric, “growth sector” specific targeting of 1970’s economic development.God I hope not!

  7. August 19, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Can an ISP information website like ISPreview be added to the list of supporters or is it only communication providers and community groups? If so then you’re free to add ISPreview to your list as we fully support what the “Final Third First” campaign is doing and will continue to promote it as part of our normal coverage.

    Mark Jackson
    Editor-in-Chief

    • chrisconder
      August 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm

      Thanks Mark, will gladly add ISPreview to the list of supporters. Are you going to cover the Rural Broadband Conference at Rheged on September 18th? Lots of plans for digital village pumps and innovative ways to bring connectivity to the rural areas. http://www.rorystewart.co.uk/broadband/ for more info.
      chris

  8. September 3, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    I am getting married on the 18th so.. no 🙂 hehehe. Well I could but the wife would… ouch.

  9. Michael Bradney
    March 17, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    My telephone line is connected to the Guildford exchange which is currently having a lot of work done to enable FTTC. I live in a village less than 4 miles to the south of Guildford, but the landline is greater than 7 miles and broadband speeds are less than 0.5 meg. We can hardly be regarded as rural, yet BT say they have no plans to bring fibre to our cabinet. I would support any campaign which encouraged Openreach to live up to its responsibilities.

  10. xx@clock-tower.com
    March 17, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    BT refuse to connect a group of 20 properties less than 250 metres from their fibre cable. Our area is all aluminium (pre-war) cabling and we struggle to get 1Mb/s.
    I despair.

    • chrisconder
      March 17, 2011 at 9:33 pm

      Ouch. I can feel your pain. There are so many groups of people like this all over the country. If we keep making our voice heard surely the powers that be will listen to us?

  1. March 21, 2010 at 3:21 pm

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